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kips 10:15 Fri Dec 4
East End - Born and Bled book

As One Iron (Bill) is promoting his book, thought I would just remind you all about my book on boxing in the East End.

History of boxing in East London from 1720 to 2010
I know Bill indulged in a bit of bare-knuckled. like some of the very early boys in my book.
Anyway, could make a decent Christmas present for anyone interested in boxing.
Available at all good bookshops and on Amazon.

Amberley publication: East End Born and Bled - Jeff Jones
Can be contacted on whomail for further info

keep safe everyone

ted fenton 9:14 Mon Dec 7
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This could be Interesting Kips as my Uncle was an Army champion who turned pro in the East End out of Poplar I've found some stuff on him but would be great to see if he's made your book.

charleyfarley 10:17 Mon Dec 7
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I used to do boxing when i was a kid at the west ham boxing club behind the Black Lion only lasted a few months got very scared of one of my opponents not of his boxing prowess but he had some kind of skin disease so when you hit him loads of skin used to fall off, frightened the life out of me to get in the ring with him
From what I can remember the bloke who used to run it was ex military and very intimidating

joe royal 10:21 Mon Dec 7
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I did a bit at The Little Eye club when I was a teenager. Totally the wrong build to be a boxer tho.

Ronald_antly 12:18 Tue Dec 8
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Are you Chinese, by any chance?

TodorovRules 1:07 Tue Dec 8
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Mrs bought it for me over the Summer. Thoroughly recommended.

chim chim cha boo 2:06 Tue Dec 8
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I'll buy this.

My grandad was known as the chicken of the northumberland (the pub he drank in) and made a fortune out of knocking blokes off Lea bridge into the water. God bless him.

chim chim cha boo 2:06 Tue Dec 8
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I'll buy this.

My grandad was known as the chicken of the northumberland (the pub he drank in) and made a fortune out of knocking blokes off Lea bridge into the water. God bless him.

chevy chase 5:36 Tue Dec 8
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I used to Train at Arbour Youth in Stepney. Charlie Magri was always there. Also Jimmy Batten was our football manager when I played for St Matthews over weavers fields.

one iron 8:53 Tue Dec 8
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kips , i will get your book

Hallerinthemorning 10:31 Tue Dec 8
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Chim do you mean chicken or cock? I thought cock meant hard man I.e cock of the school or cock of the estate, up north? Chicken dont sound it does it lol

Hallerinthemorning 10:35 Tue Dec 8
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Kips is there anything about Johnny Claydon in there?

Russ of the BML 10:37 Tue Dec 8
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Nice one kips. This looks good. I will get a copy.

kips 11:39 Tue Dec 8
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Thanks for your support lads.

I think it makes a decent read. It was a huge subject so I tried to cover most aspects, so you have both pro and amateur boxing covered as well as the clubs and venues. So clubs like West Ham, Repton, Eton Manor, St Georges, Arbour, Fairbairn and Peacock gym as well as Premierland, Mile End Arena and York Hall are all in there.

Hundreds of boxers, Charlie Magri is in there, as too is Jimmy Batten who I spoke to at length. What a hard, durable fighter he was!

Probably got enough info to write another 2 books such was the scale of boxing in London, particularly East London, during the last Century and before.

Some amazing stories

MaryMillingtonsGhost 12:45 Tue Dec 8
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Am hoping the missus is getting me a copy for Christmas. God knows I dropped enough fucking hints.

All the very best of luck with the book fella.

Northern Sold 12:46 Tue Dec 8
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Yeah I'll get the missus to order us a copy for Xmas ... sounds decent kips... had some of my family fight out of WHB's and Repton over the years...

Lee Trundle 4:57 Tue Dec 8
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Kips - Have you ever heard of a small time boxer called Dave Arnold (I knew him as Boxer Dave)? He was a West Ham fan and ended up moving over to Asia, which is where I met him.

kips 5:53 Tue Dec 8
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Lee and Haller
Neither Johnny Claydon or Dave Arnold made it in . Sorry
I know Claydon was East End but I checked on Dave Arnold couldn't find a lot on him although he boxed the excellent Johnny Pritchett in his day.

Johnny Claydon fought and lost to Jim Watt. No shame there.

As I said hundreds came out of the East to box. At it's height between the wars it seemed like there was a professional boxer living in every other street.

Huge.

Hello Mrs. Jones 6:04 Tue Dec 8
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I've always thought that 2 grown men pummeling each other into a concussed state was somewhat needlessly barbarbic but then again I'm a bit of a milquetoast.

charleyfarley 6:13 Tue Dec 8
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The Tibbs used to train in ThePeacock Freemasons Rd E16 and the Murphy's who were a boxing family used to train in the Royal Oak Barking rd.

Kips does your book include Billy Williams who went to the USA under the watch of Angelo Dundee? He was kicked out of the USA nobody could control him would have been a hell of a fighter, he broke my nose with one punch and although I was taught to stand up to bullies etc I definitely gave him a wide berth an out and out nutter

Going back a few years there used to be a hard man from the East end called Bill "the Bomb" (he was called the bomb because you never knew when he was gonna go off :lol: ), he was a very talented heavyweight boxer who was taken to the USA by legendary trainer Angelo Dundee to train and spar with the great Mohammed Ali, Dundee thought Bill the bomb was a possible title contender (yeh he was that good) but Billy Williams was a lunatic who ended up getting a mafia boss's daughter in the family way and caused havoc in the sates wherever he went and to have it on his toes back to blighty a bit lively. it was down hill after that for the bomb and he was in & out of Prison for years. In one of his books Bronson talks about a time when he was captured in his cell by a gang of terrorist (Libyans if I remember Correctly) who were going to beat the life out of him, so Bronson prepared himself for the worse, then all of a sudden he see the Bill walk through the cell door, and the two of them proceeded to beat the daylights out of terrorist and ended up taking them hostage

kips 6:46 Tue Dec 8
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Charley,
Jimmy Tibbs and his son are obviously in the book, So to Terry and Glen Murphy.

Billy Williams was a West Ham lad I think but not in the book. As you say he cut his professional teeth in USA.
didn't know about The Bomb. Sounds a character.

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